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“Where is Salvation in Islam.” October 29, 2009

Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem:

To answer this, we must first understand, what salvation is and what it means:

Noun 1. salvation – (theology) the act of delivering from sin or saving from evil. (thefreedictionary.com)

From this can you (the christian) say you have salvation? No, because you do sin, everyone sins, it is part of human nature to sin, Adam (alayhi salaam) and the tree shows us that.

However to be saved from sin or saved from evil, one must have some sort of programming, some sort of way of life to control these desires to sin.

From what I’ve seen, I’ve been lied to quite alot, abused  with words, all the time while doing my duty of propagating Islam, seeing these Christians breaking laws of the Bible. If that is salvation, then my friends, quite undoubtedly can you say you truly believe? Yet you’re not following scripture (Words of God) but doctrine (Words of Men); which can change the meaning of what you follow, thus implying that you may not know “Christ” at all. To know someone as best as you can and understand them fully, one must become them, in this sense we must “emulate”, “imitate” and “live the example”. Hence to know “Christ”, one must live like him. Be wary of Matthew 7:21-23, it is no joke.

Now this way of life, this self programming, how do we attain it? Very simple, through the rightly guided, the ones sent by God to be examples to live the scripture and show us how it is to be done. For example in your scripture, Jesus said; “The only way to the Father is through me” and before him the only way to God was through Moses and before him, Solomon and before him David and before him Abraham.

These were the people who lived lives devoted to God and therefore we deem the following of the practises of our Prophet (Muhammad [saw]) the “Sunnah” and what he preached was our scripture called the “Qur’an”.

Therefore through careful examination of the past and now, the route to God has always been the Scripture and His which He has prophets sent to mankind.

Salvation is not just belief, but belief in what has been sent and the practicing of those beliefs. Otherwise, you’ll just be another hypocrite like those of the past and those of know who say “We believe and that is all that is required”, when in fact Jesus preached that if he a man can do the 613 laws, why can’t you?

In fact, Christians have fallen prey to the teachings of the Pharisees.

1) You quote scripture but don’t follow it.
2) You say piety and religiousity is “worthless”.

Yet Jesus commanded you to follow the laws of the scripture in Matthew 5:17-20 and that to do this you follow his example: “The Only way to the Father is through me” otherwise most modern day Christians, can just be like the hypocrites (Pharisees) who said they believed, spoke the law but did not practise it only to be rejected by God in Jeremiah 8.

Be wary because the rejection of the Jews for not practising the law is not only for them, but for Christians to, who do not fast (40 days and 40 nights without water, Jesus a man did this but you a man can’t?), Jesus who spent all night in prayer (he was a man and you can’t do this?), Jesus who wore a beard.

You see, from the above, not only do we follow laws of God as Jesus and other prophets commanded, we also follow his practises and the practises of other prophets, thus building a way of life, that is true salvation.

Saying “I believe” is just not good enough. Matthew 7:21-23.

 

How to Conquer a Catholic School. October 8, 2009

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Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem

So I’ve been going to a prestigious Catholic school for the past 5 years. This year being my last. However this year seems to be the climax of my years of study and in what looks like a thriller of a year has a manifested itself into a full scale Muslim revival. All I’ve known were two Muslims in my year, besides that there must have been 2 or 3 somewhere around that I knew.

Yet, in one day, I met 3 other Muslims, taking the tally to 6, and the day following that we began to prayer Zhur (Dhur) Salaah in school. We found a somewhat empty classroom, no pictures of Jesus or Mary, got some prayer mats and began our Salaah. After 2 days of successfully plying our trade of Islam with one another, including some indepth and truly awesome sharing of Islamic knowledge, we came across 20 Muslim youths in a Catholic school of 900.

Thanking Allah for what we’ve got so far, we’re going to have Jummah in school, and atleast one “meeting” each week where we gather after Dhur Salaah and I’ll teach the younger ones. Somehow this feels eerily similiar to how Islam conquered the world before. Our meetings as informal as they were in the beginning attracted a somewhat curious but sizable crowd of mis-informed Christians, who now; whenever they see me choose to ask questions about Islam.

I have to say, either I’m in dreamland at this moment or I’m being blessed by Almighty Allah who has given me a window of opportunity to do some good.

Allah Knows Best. (Allahu Alam.)

 

Bible: Can we find errors in the 1st Chapter? August 4, 2009

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Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem.

The object of this post is not to insult the Bible or those who follow it. Rather it is to open minds and I am open to correction. If you do know better than I do and would like to point our my misinterpretations and mistakes, you are free to do so in the comments section or via email [techliveadmin@gmail.com]

THE BIBLE: Errors in 1st Chapter, 37 Verses (NIV- Source)

Note: only first 19 verses covered in part 1.

The Beginning

“1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.”

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The word “God” in Hebrew is “El”. This is not the word used in Hebrew manuscripts. The word used is “Elohim” which means GodS. Yes, plural. Why would all Bibles and copies of the Torah (English) hide this?

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“2 Now the earth was [a] formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.”

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The earth was empty, yet it had water on it. This takes the meaning of “Is the glass half-full or half-empty” to a whole new meaning. We shall clarify this verse later down in another verse, which shows water was on the “empty” earth.

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3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and He separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.

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The question is, God said let their be light, so obviously the sun had to be created. Otherwise, “God” is saying we don’t need the sun for light in this world.  Notice, that the sun is(has to be) present as we have a change from darkness to light or from light to darkness.

Just a heads up for my readers, the Jewish day and the Islamic day starts in the evening, from when the sun sets, hence the first day started at the evening.

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6 And God said, “Let there be an expanse between the waters to separate water from water.7 So God made the expanse and separated the water under the expanse from the water above it. And it was so. 8 God called the expanse “sky.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the second day.

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When I stated above there was proof in the later verses of the formless and empty earth somehow magically having water, yet the Bible says it was EMPTY, I was not kidding. “God” is saying there was water somewhere and then he created the sky, so supposedly we have water floating around in outer space, not as in comets or meteorites but just floating around……………..yeah, I’ll leave you to consider that……any scientists out their willing to help?

Again He’s seperating “water from above” from the “water below”. Thus proving the contradiction listed above.

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9 And God said, “Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear.” And it was so. 10 God called the dry ground “land,” and the gathered waters he called “seas.” And God saw that it was good.

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Even further proof, that water was on the “empty” earth. I’m just curious, does the God of the Bible and Torah know the difference between empty and actually having something (Not Empty??).

Question here, if God gathered all the water into ONE place, let’s say a sphere covered in water, what is the EARTH made of?

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11 Then God said, “Let the land produce vegetation: seed-bearing plants12 The land produced vegetation: plants bearing seed according to their kinds and trees bearing fruit with seed in it according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good. 13 And there was evening, and there was morning—the third day. and trees on the land that bear fruit with seed in it, according to their various kinds.” And it was so.

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Does God know there are hundreds of species if not thousands of non-seed bearing plants? Most flowers are spread via their pollen and some use animals such as birds and bees to spread the pollen. I’m sure you’r asking “are pollens seeds?”. No pollen is a powder. Big difference.

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14 And God said, “Let there be lights in the expanse of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark seasons and days and years, 15 and let them be lights in the expanse of the sky to give light on the earth.” And it was so. 16 God made two great lights—the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars. 17 God set them in the expanse of the sky to give light on the earth, 18 to govern the day and the night, and to separate light from darkness. And God saw that it was good. 19 And there was evening, and there was morning—the fourth day.

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Okay, these are my favourite verses put together. Please scroll upwards and read verse three (3). The “sky” as noted in later verses is what the birds are told to fly in. The “sky” seperates water floating in space from floating into the water of earth. Does the “sky” have lights in it that we just don’t see? If He’s referring to stars, I understand, which He later says, but the use of the word “sky” is not only context wise illogically used here, but improperly used to describe the science behind the difference of the atmopshere we live in and the atmosphere of space. Which are by far, greatly differing; yet to God( of Torah and Bible) are the same. Science fail.

I know navigators used the stars to mark travel plans etc. Hey, atleast ONE accurrate statement, which was done before this book was written……plagiarism anyone?

Now we come to the ultimate failure of science. “Two great lights” referring to the sun and the moon.I’m just going to ask an innocent question. When did the moon become a light? In fact let me alter that, when did the moon become a GREAT light?

Question again, did God make the sun on the forth day or on the first day?

 

Together Against Tyranny July 20, 2009

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Twitter Ups and Downs [Updated!] July 19, 2009

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Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem,

Note: Updates are in ORANGE


Twitter is an essential tool in the services which I provide. Going from 0 followers to a somewhat respectable 500 (or more) followers, by following 1/5th of my followers. I’ve gained many friends and more so, enemies. I preach this deen of Islam and surely, I have seen a great backlash against Islam on twitter.

I’ve debated on numerous occassions, it allows me to learn and understand, however there is one statement which echoes throughout my debates.
My enemies are a mix between Christian and Jews. Ive seem them tweet how much they’ve defeated me or how much they can, but when presented with  a debate, they either pull our or never reply. They use devious tricks to have their way and today I’ll list who these people are and what they try to or atleast think they are doing.

@Rollin60

A former gangster who saw the light through Jesus Christ, however he’s seen it fit to:

- Curse and use filthy, filthy language.

- Lie about me, such to the extent it is referred to as slander, his claim “Islamqa created a YouTube video and it’s a virus, do not watch.” I’ve honestly never seen such foolishness and can you believe, people actually believed watching a YT video can give you a virus?

It reached the point where an enemy of mine who absolutely hates Islam, had to state this guy was lying. That truly is shocking.

- He incited a Jewish girl to repeat certain statements to me, so that I may get angry and say wrong things, he plotted a great deal to no avail.

- He claimed he defeated me in countless debates, whereas I answered fully and whenever a question was posed to him, his answe was “Ask Jesus”. It reached the point where yesterday we debated and I answered his ridiculous Quran contradiction claim and he decided to jump on the “you’re a bad muslim terrorist” train.

- He claimed I insulted his wife by sending this tweet to him: https://twitter.com/islamqa/status/2710275333

In fact I had to send this tweet as he mentioned “kicking ” and “wife” in same tweet, he mocked domestic violence in the first set of tweets he ever sent to me, such that I had to block him and report him to anti-abuse tweeters.

- Apparently he says Quran orders us to kill, when shown with evidence not so, he doesn’t reply to it but moves on o other questions.

- When shows Jesus ordered Genocide and rape in Torah, he says “but Islam kills people today.”

- When shown that African Christians kill in the name of Christ and President Bush did the same (by his own remarks to French President Chirac) he jumps on the Muslims killing Muslims claim.

- Already told him that Shia are not Muslim and he insists they are, whereas Muslims reject them as Muslim, he chooses to see them as Muslims.

- Endorses slavery if and only if Christians do it.

- Denies simple facts, says it’s okay for Jews to kill Christians and rape women

- Endorses the theft of homes and destruction of homes, call it “bigger than him”. Shows his true colors towards loving all of mankind.

- Says I can’t love Christians because I tink the Bible is false. That’s like saying I don’t like ice because it’s cold water, because I don’t like one feature, doesn’t mean I don’t like others.

- Says Hamas are terrorists yet:

Israel blockades Gaza’s borders so food, water, electricity, gas and medicine cannot be transferred into, however Hamas are the “terrorists”.

- Claims Hamas attacks Christians in Gaza, yet 1/3 of Gaza is Christian, if we were attacking Christians why don’t we hear about it, see it or here Christians speaking about it?

- 20,000 homes, as well as not included in the 20,000 but outside of it, schools, mosques, churches and hospitals were bombed by Israeli planes, but he justifies it and blames Hamas for it. I blame him for their deaths. See how that works?

- Says Hamas are terrorists because they hide inside homes. That’s like saying the democrats can blow up the republicans because the hide inside homes. Hamas is a democratically elected government and obviously the majority had to vote for them, hence civlians are terrorists to?

- Says Israel has a right to kill 1500 women and children. I guess we should kill his and see what he says then?

@Dolpheena

A Zionist who works alongside @Rollin60 whose purpose is to try to get me angry.

- She also has a filthy mouth, cursing, calling names and yet says she’s an example of a perfect religion. She even defended insulting people.

- Can never answer a question properly and almost never answers my questions.

- Lies a lot.

- Always planning to get me angry or trying to make me angry, always fails.

- I’m turd and garbage and will be sitting next to Hitler in Hell (tweeted recently to me by her).

- Says she has the right to talk about me however she wants.

- Insists on calling me names and that I’ve already got a seat in hell.

@MrBloomingdale

Don’t know what he is, but I can tell you, he’s crazy.

- He attacked me out of nowhere and tried to debate me, didn’t answer a single question and left.

- Returns sometime later to say I threatened to behead him. Asked for proof and his answer was “you know what you said”. I pulled up the tweet, where I stated: https://twitter.com/islamqa/status/2698003691

My point rests.

- When presented with the above tweet, he never replied.

- He’s a liar and tries to say you’ve said things when you haven’t.  Proven above. Just a waste of time to have any logical chat with.

- Tweeting that I’m the devil to numerous people, instead of addressing me directly, like a coward who pushes insults he’s trying to provoke me.

Like the Bible says, Matthew 7:1 “”Do not judge, or you too will be judged.”

@An_Egyptian

A Coptic Christian who insults and says all Palestinians should be burned alive.

- Curses, uses language which is highly insulting, yet calls herself a Christian.

- Says the dictionary is wrong about definitions.

- Says she isn’t arab but Egyptian (when did Egyptian become a race?)

- Cannot differ between race and nationality.

- Spent an hour debating her race was Egyptian and Egypt is not in Arabia. Where is it then?

- After the hour says her race is Coptic.

- Then says coptic means Egyptian.

- Then insults and never replies.

- Tweets me next day to tell me I’m garbage and worthless.

This was not written to put down or embarass anyone. However these people have a goal and it is to hate, hate and did I mention, hate?

They all use filthy language, something un-Christian like.

They all insult me on a regular basis.

They all lie.

They all slander me a lot.

They really have nothing better to do and fit the description of:

Quran Surah 2 Verse 11:

“And when it is said unto them: Make not mischief on the earth, they say: We are peacemakers only .”

 

My Heart is Hurting June 29, 2009

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Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem

I remember several years ago quite vividly. A green windball in my hand, playing with it in the waiting room. Moving the blinds and looking at the night sky. My mother and brother and father and grandmother, all in the same room. My grandfather (not grandfather persay, gmom divorced and re-married) ws having surgery on his heart. I was young, didn’t know much as to what was going on.

At a period later on, I recall us visiting my grandparents a few times again. They lived on the opposite side of our tiny island nation and we rarely visited. On these occassions this man, called my grandfather was kind and caring. He smiled all the time, he told us stories of him being a great volleyball player and told us about his numerous MVP awards. He was the Imam of the local Mosque in his area. I wasn’t really close to him, but he was family nonetheless. They owned a small parlour from which as a child I would love to visit. I remember him and my grandmom allowing us to choose any amount of snacks we wanted. Those days were in my blessed youth.

I’m crying now, my heart is hurting. For many years he has had heart troubles. We went to visit my grandparents today, Sunday 28th June 2009. He has descended into a man I have never known before. As I walked into the room where he sat, my heart sank, my words left my mouth, I was terrified, sick to the stomach. For the first time I loved him without knowing him. There he sat, in a wheelchair, hand in a glove (glove like apparatus), he had fallen down the stairs the day before and injured himself.

He had lost his speech and could barely speak, mumbled his words to get a point across. I walked up shaked his hand, greeted him with the salam and he mumbled his reply. I proceeded to sit quietly and not stare at him. I had no words……what could I have said?

For 15 minutes we remained in silence, even my brother didn’t want to speak, we did not know what to say.

When my “father”, came and alleviated the situation by speaking with him. I realised when he smiled only half of his face smiled…..so he did smile with me when we greeted him. He was on medication and lots of it. These looked like his final days.

We watched a cricket match with WI vs India, seeing India slowly make 10 runs with 10 wickets…….

He spoke or rather half spoke his words to my “father” about the match. Frequently I would glance at him and when he caught me, we would smile with each other. He had to be fed for lunch and he used the washroom afterwards, had a bath and was bought back into the living room.
We left him for a few minutes as my brother, mom and my gmom had a conversation. We asked him if he wanted to join us and he rather watch the cricket……

My dad told him we were leaving, but we stayed a few minutes extra, we sat down with him and watched the match a little more. Now it was time to leave. I shook his hand and gave him salaams again, next did my brother, but my mom insisted we hugged him. It was our grandfather she said. My brother hugged him first and the hug was not quick but lasted a few seconds. I hugged him, but never hugged him like I did at that time. I hugged him with true and honest love for that man.

When my mom hugged him, he started to cry, this could be the last time we would ever see him. That image is burned into my mind forever. My mom and him both almost broke down, he did momentarily, my mom hugged him again after my grandmom (gmom) adjusted the wheelchair closer to the television. I hugged him again, this time tears in my eyes. As we left the room I picked up my brothers bag and exited, my last glimpse of him was my mom waving to him (after she called out to him) and I walked right behind her, I saw his face for what possibly was the final time.

When leaving my gmom also broke down crying, she too knew it could be the last time.

So there you go, I am unable to finish this post, I’m crying because grand dad, I LOVE YOU and I BEG that ALLAH our LORD GRANTS YOU MERCY IN THIS LIFE AND IN THE HEREAFTER.
I LOVE YOU MORE THAN YOU WILL EVER KNOW. I MAY NOT HAVE KNOWN YOU WELL, BUT ALLAH HAS SOFTENED MY HEART AND I WILL NEVER FORGET YOU AND I PROMISE TO LOVE YOU FOR THE SAKE OF ALLAH. AMEEN.

sorry, i cnnot continue the post, i’m crying to much, i need a break…sorry to all

 

CARM.ORG Matt Salick Fails! June 8, 2009

Response to rebuttal to Matt Slick’s Questions for Muslims article
Mr. Zawadi’s original is in brown.

Matt Salick’s answers are in green.)

All posts by me are in [THESE BRACKETS WITH THIS COLOR OF RED AND WHICH ARE BOLD]

This article is courtesy the fine folks at www.biblerrors.com

Rebuttal to Matt Salick courtesy your Brother in Deen, Abu Shuja’ah other wise known as Mujahid1412.

Allahu Alam.

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Bassam Zawadi’s Original: “Introduction This article is in response to Matt Slick’s article questions for Muslims.
God willing I will try my best to provide answers to the questions posted by Matt Slick. The answers mostly are not of my own. I just provide them.
Matt Slick said:

  1. The Qur’an says “To those who believe and do deeds of righteousness hath Allah promised forgiveness and a great reward” (Surah 5:9).
    1. Question: Are you doing enough good deeds to receive salvation on the Day of Judgment?
    2. Question: Are you doing all you can or are you relaxing in your dedication to Allah?

Matt Slick’s Response:

What Mr. Zawadi is telling us is that he feels that he’s good enough to merit the forgiveness of his God. If his opinion accurately reflects the teachings of Islam, then he lowers the stature and holiness of God. The Christian would never say that he feels he is good enough or done enough good to merit the forgiveness of the Almighty. Such a thing is sinful because it is boastful and self-centered. When it comes to forgiveness before God and our works, we are commanded to boast only in what Christ has done and not in ourselves: “For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; 9not as a result of works, that no one should boast,” (Eph. 2:8-9), and “For those who are circumcised do not even keep the Law themselves, but they desire to have you circumcised, that they may boast in your flesh. 14But may it never be that I should boast, except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, through which the world has been crucified to me, and I to the world,” (Gal. 6:13-14).

[Mr. Zawadi is not saying that. Do you like putting words into people’s mouths? Not professional. He is saying if he learns slander is wrong and he stops slandering, doesn’t he know he is doing something good? After that each day he stops one wrong action and one after the other he is successful at doing so. Then at the end of the day/ after sometime he knows he has done (to his knowledge) that his actions have merited more good than bad!

Now to answer you, it is a lie, fabrication and total use of taking a verse out of context and saying it says there is no need for works to earn heaven. Let us, greatly examine the verse quoted and decipher what it truly means:

“For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; 9not as a result of works, that no one should boast," (Eph. 2:8-9)

Christians as a whole say, they do good works BECAUSE they are saved. Did God say you have been saved by Him or through FAITH?

Read the verse, it says Faith through His Grace. So the answer here is FAITH.

Faith where you do good works because you are  want  to be saved and not because of YOUR IDEA OF FAITH, as GOD had sent a faith for us to follow!

Then He goes on to say, not as a result of works which people boast of!

So He is saying, you are saved (successful) if you follow His faith (for which he has sent for us) and not of the faith you perceive is right (saying yourself is saved) and that you would not be saved based off the good works which you have boasted off/ can boast off!

So are you saved by God or by God through His faith (Islam) where you do works in anonymity and with love and care and not for self pride?

It answers itself!

God is saying, by His grace through the faith (where beliefs are put into practice) which He has chosen for you, you are saved and that you are not saved if you practice that faith whereas you boast of what you did!

So do you do works? Yes, charity is a work, praying is a work, reading the Bible is a work, to say you do not do works is a lie.

"For those who are circumcised do not even keep the Law themselves, but they desire to have you circumcised, that they may boast in your flesh. 14But may it never be that I should boast, except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, through which the world has been crucified to me, and I to the world," (Gal. 6:13-14).

Exactly! This proves what I said above! Doing works is okay as Isa(as) did works on this earth! However boasting of these works does you NO GOOD! Hence saying yourself is saved is called BOASTING. Hypocritical? Yes!]

Zawadi’s Original: “Matt Slick said:

  1. The Qur’an says, “O ye who believe! Turn unto Allah in sincere repentance! It may be that your Lord will remit from you your evil deeds and bring you into Gardens underneath which rivers flow, on the day when Allah will not abase the Prophet and those who believe with him. Their light will run before them and on their right hands; they will say: Our Lord! Perfect our light for us, and forgive us! Lo! Thou art Able to do all things,” (66:8-9). Notice how it says if you are sincere you may receive forgiveness.
    1. Question: How do you know you are sincere enough to be forgiven of Allah?
    2. Question: Does it give you peace to know that even if you are very sincere that, at best, you may receive forgiveness?
    3. Question: If you say that you know you are sincere enough in your repentance before Allah, how do you know you are not deceiving yourself?
    4. Question: Is your heart really good enough to muster enough sincerity before a Holy and Righteous God?
    5. Question: If you say yes, I honestly and humbly ask you, “Are you being prideful?”
    6. Question: If you say you are not being prideful, then are you boasting in your sincerity?
      The person knows that his repentance is sincere when he has fulfilled the conditions of tawbah (repentance)
      Taken from http://www.alinaam.org.za/library/duaa/tawbah02.htm

Hazrat Allie [radhiyallahu anhu] was asked as to what Tauba is. He replied, “It is a combination of six things,

  1. To regret over ones sins.
  2. To make Qadha of any Fardh or Wajib one had foregone.
  3. To return the property of others which one usurped.
  4. To seek forgiveness from the aggrieved if one has harmed him physically or verbally.
  5. A firm resolution not to embark on sin in future.
  6. Just as one has witnessed himself disobeying Allah Ta’aala he now beholds himself in His obedience.

[Mr. Zawadi provided an answer for question 1.

Question 2: What if I am hypocritical in my approach of repentance then I would not receive forgiveness, of which the criteria is stated above by Ali (ra).

Question 3: Did you follow the criteria and truly regret the action? Or repent with the intention of knowing you plan to do it again?

Question 4: He is telling us to repent, if that is what God says, who are you to question it?

Question 5: How is being prideful doing what God said to do? Not intelligent questions as Mr. Zawadi did provide a full answer!

Question 6: How am I boasting about being sincere? I repent within the conditions listed by the Hadith and I follow God’s word. That’s called practicing God’s word not boasting in sincerity!]

Matt Slick’s Response: Mr. Zawadi does say, however, that there are six steps that a person must follow in order to know his repentance is sincere enough: regret, restitution, asking forgiveness, repentance, etc., but this does not address the issue of the heart of the Muslim. The questions deal with the heart. How does the Muslim know that his own sincerity - down deep in his heart - is good enough? That is the question. The question is not what deeds must be done, but how does he know his sincerity is enough? He does not address the second question, nor the third, nor the fourth, nor the fifth, nor the sixth. How can this response from Mr. Zawadi be taken seriously as a rebuttal to a list of questions when he doesn’t even answer them? How do you rebut questions? Don’t you answer them? Why did Mr. Zawadi not do that?

[Sincerity lies in the heart. How can you say you are saved and base that on what your heart tells you? So either Mr. Zawadi’s answers are correct and you are being hypocritical or you are making a case out of nothing.]

Zawadi’s Original:Matt Slick said: In Christianity, Jesus is God in flesh who paid for our sins on the cross (1 Pet. 2:24). Because of that, we Christians are secure in Him and do not have to worry about doing enough good works to please God since we are saved by grace through faith in Him, (Eph. 2:8-9).

Question: Why should we Christians give up our guarantee of salvation in Jesus for the requirements of your Qur’anic law when you yourselves don’t even know if you have done enough good deeds to be saved on the Day of Judgment?

My Response: Well Matt Slick is assuming that Christianity is the truth and that Jesus really did die for his sins. Well if Christianity is the truth, then Islam is false and therefore we should all become Christians. However, people do not choose a religion that appeals to them, they choose the truth. The reason why Matt Slick and all Christians should leave Christianity is because it is a false religion, therefore they have no salvation unless they turn to the glorious Quran.”

Matt Slick’s Response: Yes, I do assume that Christianity is the truth and that Islam is false. But Mr. Zawadi is incorrect because if Christianity is true, it does not mean that all people will become Christians. He is incorrect again when he says that “people do not choose a religion that appeals to them, they choose the truth.” Not all people choose truth. For example, many have chosen Islam, and Mormonism, and Jehovah’s Witnesses, and atheism, and Buddhism, etc.

But again, Mr. Zawadi does not answer the question. I fail to understand why he would write a rebuttal to my series of questions if he doesn’t even answer the questions in the first place. Again, how do you write a rebuttal to questions? You don’t. You write a rebuttal to statements, not questions. Perhaps Mr. Zawadi would care to answer the questions sometime in the future. Mr.’s Zawadi’s statements are not rebuttals.

[Right, so you assume, yet have no proof, Christianity is true. How do you know if you are saved? Boasting you are saved is what God says does not earn you Heaven! Allah(swt) says in Quran Chapter 2 Verse 1-5 what is takes to be successful. Hence I do not have to answer your question, Quran does!]

Zawadi’s Original: Matt Slick said:

  1. The Bible says that God is love (1 John 4:16) and that He loves all people (Matt. 5:43-48; John 3:16). The Qur’an never says that “God is love.” In fact, the Qur’an says that Allah does not love unbelievers (2:98; 3:32).
    1. Question: If Allah does not love unbelievers, can you say that Allah is love, especially if the Qur’an does not say it?
    2. Question: If you say yes, that Allah is love, then why does he only love the Muslims and not all people?
    3. Question: If you say Allah is love, is he more loving than the God of the Bible who loves all people?

[Answers to those questions:

Question 1: Quran Chapter 1 Verse 1 answers this “In the Name of Allah, Most GRACIOUS, Most Merciful.”

Showing mercy means what?

Question 2: Allah does not love those whom He has created and granted mercies to, when they choose a path other than which He has selected. Does disobeying God and rebelling against His guidance warrant His love? Either way He grants us mercy!

Allah says if an unbeliever does good, he shall see it in this world (rewarded here not in hereafter). You do not believe, but do you have a roof over your head? Money? Food? Life? Then is he not showing you His mercy? Of course, you see it, but what good is it to disobey him, doing so does not earn you any good in the hereafter (heaven).

Question 3: Answered above. God of the Bible? Who’s that?]

Zawadi’s Original: By the way, who said that the God of the bible loves all?

[Formatting improved to save space] Ecclesiastes 3:8, “a time to love and a time to hate, a time for war and a time for peace.” Leviticus 20:23, “You must not live according to the customs of the nations I am going to drive out before you. Because they did all these things, I abhorred them”; Deuteronomy 18:12, “Anyone who does these things is detestable to the LORD, and because of these detestable practices the LORD your God will drive out those nations before you”; Leviticus 26:30, “I will destroy your high places, cut down your incense altars and pile your dead bodies on the lifeless forms of your idols, and I will abhor you”; Psalm 5:4-6, “You are not a God who takes pleasure in evil; with you the wicked cannot dwell, 5 The arrogant cannot stand in your presence; you hate all who do wrong. 6 You destroy those who tell lies; bloodthirsty and deceitful men the LORD abhors”; Psalm 11:5, “The LORD examines the righteous, but the wicked and those who love violence his soul hates”; Romans 913, “Just as it is written: ‘Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated.”

Matt Slick’s Response: I addressed this above.

[Where? I read it and you did not answer. He fully destroys your baseless “God of the Bible Loves All” argument here!]

Zawadi’s Original: “Us Muslims believe that Allah has put us on earth and made us all Muslims by fitrah (nature). That it is natural for all of us to want to know God. To get to know God. We are born pure. It is like he has put us all on a highway leading to paradise but there are many exits. People unfortunately take those exits despite God warning us not to take them. Therefore, those who turn away from the mercy of God reject the love that God wants to give them and has already given them from the start. Therefore, God does not love them anymore. They do not deserve to be loved.”

Matt Slick’s Response: The Bible teaches us that none deserve to be loved. But we are loved because of what and who God is. In other words, God first loves us in spite of our sinfulness. God loves us because of what is in him, not because of what is in us. As Christians, we know we are not worth loving, that we have sinned against an infinitely holy God, and that we deserve damnation. But, we have been blessed by the grace of God to receive forgiveness through Jesus. Therefore, we boast in nothing that we have done, in none of our actions, and certainly not our own hearts.

[Hypocritical statements, “I am saved.” Bah hambug! Lies, Lies, lies! First of I agree with what you said (which I underlined). I thought you received forgivness through faith? Why say through Jesus? Jesus is not His real name. Please use God’s real name in your works]

Zawadi’s Original: “Matt Slick said:

  1. In the Bible, Jesus said in John 15:13, “Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.” In Christianity, the greatest act of love is performed by God Himself — since Jesus is God in flesh (John 1:1, 14; Col. 2:9). Jesus is the one who fulfilled His own words on this. He laid His life down for us.
    1. Question: What is the greatest act of love performed by Allah?
    2. Question: If what Jesus said is true, then hasn’t someone besides Allah performed the greatest act of love?
    3. Question: Why do you, as a Muslim, want me to give up such a great love performed by God Himself (from a Christian perspective) for your belief in Allah who only loves people if they are Muslims?

[Question 1: I answered this above.

Question 2: “If I bear witness of myself it is false.” – Jesus

Question 3: Answered above, He loves all, what do you do to earn it?]

Proof Jesus died on the cross?]

Zawadi’s Original: Matt Slick said:

  1. Islam teaches that the Holy Spirit is Gabriel. In the Bible, the Holy Spirit lives in the Christians.
    1. Question: If the angel Gabriel is the Holy Spirit, how can he dwell in us? (Note: According to the Nestle Aland Greek New Testament Textual Apparatus, there are no textual variations in any of the following biblical references. They are recorded and transmitted to us accurately.)
      1. “Guard, through the Holy Spirit who dwells in us, the treasure which has been entrusted to you,” (2 Tim. 1:14, NASB).
      2. “Do you not know that you are a temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwells in you?” (1 Cor. 3:16, NASB).

My Response:

Matt Slick’s logic is “if the New Testament says something and the teachings of Islam say something else, then Islam must be wrong”. Matt Slick yet needs to prove that whatever the New Testament says is superior to the teachings of Islam. It does not matter if there are no textual variations (I like how he indirectly admits that there are though). It does not matter if that is what is really written, it does not make it true.

Matt Slick’s Response: It goes without saying that as a Christian I affirm the teachings of the New Testament. The issue here is how the Muslim would answer the question, that if the angel Gabriel is the Holy Spirit, according to Islam, then how can he dwell within us. Instead of dealing with the question Mr. Zawadi briefly mentions textual variations. I had mentioned them because the Muslims claim that the Bible is corrupted, though they have no proof of this. The textual apparatus demonstrates that the text I quoted is identical in every single manuscript that has been unearthed. Therefore, there is no evidence whatsoever to demonstrate that the texts thus cited are incorrect. Mr. Zawadi sidesteps the question and yet again fails to answer. Again, how is this a rebuttal? It is not.

[I really would like Matt to read his own words. The same thing you wrote in your “Arguments Muslims Use to Attack Christianity” is that we assume the Bible is false and that we should not do so. Here you are being hypocritical of your own words.

Proof Bible is false? Simple: Original Manuscripts Where? + Jeremiah 8:8 and Deuteronomy 4:2]

Zawadi’s Original: Matt Slick said:

  1. Lying is okay?
    1. Question: Was Muhammad wrong for advocating lying? Is Lying okay? “Muhammad bin Maslama got up saying, “O Allah’s Apostle! Would you like that I kill him [Ka'b bin Al-Ashraf]?” The Prophet said, “Yes,” Muhammad bin Maslama said, “Then allow me to say a (false) thing (i.e. to deceive Kab). “The Prophet said, “You may say it,” (Hadith Vol. 5, Book 59, #369).
    2. Question: Who is more holy, Allah or Yahweh?
    3. In the above quote from the hadith, Muhammad advocated lying. The Christian God would never approve of lying. Does the god of Islam approve of lying? If not, then wasn’t Muhammad wrong? If he was not wrong, then Allah approves of lying. Which God is more holy? The God of Christianity is far more holy.

My Response: Lying is strongly prohibited in Islam. Read this great article for the proof http://www.islamtomorrow.com/lies.asp Now Matt Slick needs to understand that it was only during that specific situation. You can read about it http://understanding-islam.org/related/text.asp?type=rarticle&raid=263&s… and http://www.bismikaallahuma.org/Muhammad/kaab.htm

Matt Slick’s Response: So what Mr. Zawadi is telling us is that lying is strongly prohibited in Islam but it is also permitted. That is a contradiction. The fact is that Mohammed advocated lying so that someone could be killed. Jesus did not teach people to lie nor does he approve of their lying. But in Islam, Mohammed approved of it.

I’m not interested in reading multiple articles that he references in his so-called rebuttal. If Mr. Zawadi wishes to answer the questions forthright, I would be interested in seeing those answers. As it stands, he has offered very little regarding answering the questions and his rebuttal is no rebuttal at all.

I’m very disappointed in his response to my paper. He did not answer the questions and, by not answering them, did not offer grounds on which to establish the truth of those answers. I assume that since he did not answer, he does not have answers

[Question to Matt : God forbid a murderer rapist breaks into your home and is about to do in your mother. Would you tell him where your mom is? Or would you lie?

In fact Muhammad(saw) shows us the situation in where we can lie. To protect ourselves. However lying should not be done on the immoral grounds of just WANTING TO mislead others for no purpose other than protecting one’s self. I await the answer to my question. Allah judges us based on our intentions!

Question 1:  Answered above! Need your answer!

Question 2: Allah is correct. YaHWeH is a made up word.

Question 3: Ever heard of the LYING SPIRIT? Your God makes people lie!]

This is me, Abu Shuja’ah/Techliveadmin/Mujahid1412 writing again. Matt Salick posted this as “Questions to Muslims”.


Our dear Brother Zawadi, said at the beginning of each post that he was just providing the answers from various sources to answer these questions.

If you did read through the green writings, those were Matt Salicks words. Apparantly he did not read what Brother Zawadi stated at the beginning of this post. As well as is it me or did Matt Salick, when he had his questions fully answered, seek to insult and degrade Brother Zawadi by discrediting him of his debating skills.

Matt, he isn’t debating you. He just providing answers to the questions. You said “Questions to Muslims”, Brother Zawadi, posted the answers.

That was certainly, hypocritical, devious, shallow and low of you to go on a personal attack of Brother Zawadi. You should give him an apology, and you should take some comprehension/ reading lessons. It tends to help, to read what people right, especially if you intend to accuse them of something.

 

CARM.ORG Preaches Against Works but Salvation! June 7, 2009

Note: This is a Series of Refutations for Articles Found at www.carm.org

The Original Article Can Be Found Here:

http://www.carm.org/religious-movements/islam/does-islam-teach-salvation-works

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Text in non-bold and black are from original article.

Does Islam teach salvation by works?

Generally speaking, there are only two methods of salvation in all the religions of the world: grace and works. Christianity is a religion of salvation by grace alone: “For by grace through faith you have been saved, not of works…” (Eph. 2:8-9).

[It is a lie, fabrication and total use of taking a verse out of context and saying it says there is no need for works to earn heaven. Let us, greatly examine the verse quoted and decipher what it truly means:

“For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; 9not as a result of works, that no one should boast," (Eph. 2:8-9)

Christians as a whole say, they do good works BECAUSE they are saved. Did God say you have been saved by Him or through FAITH?

Read the verse, it says Faith through His Grace. So the answer here is FAITH.

Faith where you do good works because you are  want  to be saved and not because of YOUR IDEA OF FAITH, as GOD had sent a faith for us to follow!

Then He goes on to say, not as a result of works which people boast of!

So He is saying, you are saved (successful) if you follow His faith (for which he has sent for us) and not of the faith you perceive is right (saying yourself is saved) and that you would not be saved based off the good works which you have boasted off/ can boast off!

So are you saved by God or by God through His faith (Islam) where you do works in anonymity and with love and care and not for self pride?

It answers itself!

God is saying, by His grace through the faith (where beliefs are put into practice) which He has chosen for you, you are saved and that you are not saved if you practice that faith whereas you boast of what you did!

So do you do works? Yes, charity is a work, praying is a work, reading the Bible is a work, to say you do not do works is a lie.]

All other systems rely totally or in part on the works of the believer to merit salvation. Mormons, for example, say that you are saved by grace through faith after all you can do. In Roman Catholicism, God’s grace is infused into a believer that enables him to do good works by which he is judged for salvation.

[As shown above Christianity does preach salvation through works.]

In Islam, forgiveness is based on a combination of Allah’s grace and the Muslim’s works. On the Day of Judgment, if a Muslim’s good works outweigh his bad ones, and if Allah so wills it, he may be forgiven of all his sins and then enter into Paradise. Therefore, Islam is a religion of salvation by works because it combines man’s works with Allah’s grace. Consider the following verses from the Qur’an. (All quotes from the Qur’an are from The Holy Qur’an, Mushaf Al-Madinah An-Nabawiyah, Revised and Edited by THE PRESIDENCY OF ISLAMIC RESEARCH, IFTA, Call and Guidance, the Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques King Fahd Complex, for the Printing of the Holy Qur-an.

  1. “To those who believe and do deeds of righteousness hath Allah promised forgiveness and a great reward” (Surah 5:9).
  2. “And He answers those who believe and do good deeds, and gives them more out of His grace; and (as for) the unbelievers, they shall have a severe punishment,” (42:26, online, trans. by M.H. Shakir).
  3. “O you who believe! If you are careful of (your duty to) Allah, He will grant you a distinction and do away with your evils and forgive you; and Allah is the Lord of mighty grace,” (8:29, online, trans. by M.H. Shakir).

Of course, the Muslims will tell us the Qur’an teaches that Allah is gracious to them and that they do not earn their forgiveness. I acknowledge this. The Qur’an says, “. . . Allah is the Lord of grace unbounded,” (8:29), and also, “. . . But Allah will choose for his special mercy whom he will – for Allah is lord of grace abounding,” (2:105). But, as you can see from the quotes 1, 2, and 3 above, Allah’s forgiveness is tied to the Muslim’s works. Therefore, I ask the question, how is it really grace if it is by also by works? Isn’t grace the unmerited favor from God? It would seem the Islamic system of salvation is more a reward than grace.

[Actually Muslims are correct. God’s grace is given to us, whether we ask for it or not. I did not ask for a home, a bed, life, shoes, water, health, clothing, air to breathe, but I am given it. All of these are unmerited favors from God to people who believe and some who disbelieve!

Now how is this reward and not grace? Whether we want these things or not we are given it. It is whether we successful or not in this life and the hereafter based on what God has said. Following His guidance, for which He prescribes for us, will earn us heaven. To just say “I am Saved, because I believe” is hypocritical. Anyone can believe but still do wrong, does that merit them heaven?

Many priests, pastors do wrong, some even change the meanings of some ideologies to preach their own twisted versions, yet they believe, does that merit them heaven?]

For further confirmation that Allah’s grace is dependent upon the deeds of faithful Muslims, here are more quotes from the Qur’an:

  1. “O you who believe! be careful of (your duty to) Allah and speak the right word, He will put your deeds into a right state for you, and forgive you your faults; and whoever obeys Allah and His Apostle, he indeed achieves a mighty success,” (33:70-71, online, trans. by M.H. Shakir).
  2. “. . . But if ye obey Allah and his messenger, he will not belittle aught of your deeds: for Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful,” (49:14).
    1. 1. “If you obey GOD and His messenger, He will not put any of your works to waste. GOD is Forgiver, Most Merciful.” (49:14).

[As explained above, works grant you success in this life and the next, His grace is always present. Hair on your head, air to breathe, all given through what? Grace.]

Notice how the Qur’an teaches forgiveness based upon Allah’s grace and man’s works. Can any Muslim be assured of his salvation before his God? No.1 Numerous Muslims have told me that they do not know if they will make it to heaven because they do not know if their good deeds outweigh their bad ones.

[I as well do not know. However I believe and I practice and the reason so many cannot guarantee their place is because we have all sinned. Many of us seek redemption and forgiveness for our sins and hence we will not know. If I knew I was guaranteed heaven, then there would be no reason to believe or practice, hence, to judge myself and say 100% I am going to heaven is telling God no matter what I do or believe, He will give me heaven. Isn’t that saying I do not need God?]

Unlike Christianity where we have assurance of salvation (1 John 5:13), there is no assurance in Islam because it rests in part on the obedience and good works of Muslims. Unlike Christianity where salvation is an unearned, free gift from God (Rom. 4:3; Eph. 2:89), the Muslim can at best only hope he has performed enough good works to outweigh his bad ones and that Allah so wills to forgive him.

[1 John 5:13

13I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that you may know that you have eternal life.

So I can believe and not care? Well this gives me a warrant to never do good again!

Romans 4:3-4

3What does the Scripture say? "Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness."[a]

4Now when a man works, his wages are not credited to him as a gift, but as an obligation.

It is an obligation of God by God to credit man when he does works! This along with the explanation of Ephesians 2:8-9 is beginning to sound more and more like Islam!]

Another requirement for forgiveness for the Muslim is sincerity when repenting of sins.

  1. “O ye who believe! Turn unto Allah in sincere repentance! It may be that your Lord will remit from you your evil deeds and bring you into Gardens underneath which rivers flow, on the day when Allah will not abase the Prophet and those who believe with him. Their light will run before them and on their right hands; they will say: Our Lord! Perfect our light for us, and forgive us! Lo! Thou art Able to do all things,” (66:8-9).
  2. “God accepts the repentance of those who have sinned in ignorance and who realizing the ugliness of their deed swiftly turn toward Him in repentance” (3:16).

I am not saying that we should not be sincere when repenting of our sins. But, the problem with sincerity is that it can easily become a form of pride. After all, if a person says he is truly sincere enough to be forgiven of his sins, then isn’t he appealing to something within himself, a finite sinner, as part of the basis of receiving forgiveness from a holy and infinite God? Is that not presumptive and prideful to do? Furthermore, the issue of sincerity is a subjective thing. How do you know you are being sincere enough? Is it because the Muslims simply believes he is? It seems to me that at best, the Muslim can only hope he is sincere enough. But how can he really know for sure? Instead, the Bible says that the heart is desperately wicked and deceitful and cannot be trusted (Jer. 17:9).

[Pride in sinning and in repentance is not being sincere. Since you choose to play word games here, can I do so to? I rather not.

Actually as Brother Zawadi of the Answering Christianity team pointed out to you, there are 6 obligations as to being sincere in repentance, in doing so the question of pride through sincerity is eliminated!

Hazrat Ali [radhiyallahu anhu] was asked as to what Taubah is. He replied, “It is a combination of six things,

  1. To regret over ones sins.
  2. To make Qadha of any Fardh or Wajib one had foregone.
  3. To return the property of others which one usurped.
  4. To seek forgiveness from the aggrieved if one has harmed him physically or verbally.
  5. A firm resolution not to embark on sin in future.
  6. Just as one has witnessed himself disobeying Allah Ta’aala he now beholds himself in His obedience.

How can I be prideful if I regret?

Praying to God and remembering Him when I should have but did not, how does that make me full of pride?

To return and give what I took wrongfully to the person whom I wronged, how is that being full of pride?

To seek forgiveness from the one whom I wronged. How is that being full of pride?

To never do the sin again. How is that being full of pride?

Now intending to be obedient, not to my desires but to the rules God has set, how is that being full of pride?

Rather to say I AM SAVED THROUGH JUST BELIEVING, MAKES ME A CHILD OF GOD AND GIVES ME HEAVEN AND YOU NOTHING sounds like pride to me!

Saying, I AM LOVED BY GOD SO I DO NOT NEED TO REPENT BECAUSE I AM OF HIS CHILDREN AND HE HAS SAVED ME, is sounding full of pride and ignorance to me!]

In Christianity, we appeal to the work of Christ on the cross (1 Pet. 2:24) completely and totally and in nothing in ourselves as a basis for forgiveness, because no good thing dwells within us (Rom. 7:18); that is, apart from Christ.

[See what I said above, you confirm you do work because you think you are saved. Yet you boast and say it. This is what God in Ephesians says does not earn you heaven. Since nothing good dwells within us, then you are not good and how is it I do good works and Christ is not in me?

You just proved that I do works and Christ is not in me. Hence Christ is not needed and you just disproved Romans 7:18 because there is good in me!]

We sincerely believe in Christ, but we never claim that forgiveness is in any way merited or gained because of our sincerity or our works. Rather, our forgiveness is based on faith and trust in God in what He has done for us in Christ. Salvation in Christianity is God centered. In Islam, forgiveness of sins is man-centered in that it is dependent upon man’s sincerity and man’s works in combination with Allah’s forgiveness.

[How do you know you sincerely believe? Since you have no good in you, you have no sincerity and hence that is being full of pride!

Forgiveness is based on faith (what faith? I thought believing was just enough??) and trust in God (isn’t faith in God and trusting Him the same thing?) In what He has done for you in Himself? So because God saved God, you are saved? Sounds like a selfish God and a hopeful guy, hoping he is saved……Why would God need to save God? Can’t God save Himself?

Salvation in Christianity is not God centered, but self centered, as you have clearly indicated.

In Islam we choose our path, whether we believe or not. To say heaven is mine without earning it, is saying God created me, and I can choose to disbelieve or say I believe and do whatever I want, while ignoring His words and guidelines.]

Both Christianity and Islam teach that we must have faith in God.

[Yes.]

But in Christianity, this faith in God is enough to save us (Rom. 5:1; Eph. 2:89).

[I know many Christians who believe and go to church yet because they are saved they do whatever they want, steal, rob, fornicate, cheat, slander…yet I do many good actions for not my benefit but those around me. If that earns them heaven and me not, isn’t that an unfair God? I believe in God and do works to benefit others, yet the Christian does nothing. Hypocrisy should be a crime.]

In Islam, faith in God it is not. In Islam, the Muslim’s works will be weighed on the Day of Judgment and it will then be decided who is saved and who is not — based upon whether the person was a Muslim, whether or not they were sincere in repentance, and whether or not they performed enough good works to out weigh the bad ones.

[Wrong, if a person believes, would he not try to practice this faith and do no wrong? Works therefore are actions, Muslims do good actions to avoid disbelieving and doing what God has prohibited, hence having faith in Him it is. If I did not have faith, that would warrant me to do anything!]

Please consider the following verses from the Qur’an about how a Muslim’s deeds are weighed in the balance on Judgment Day to see if he might be saved or not.

  1. “Then those whose balance (of good deeds ) is heavy, they will be successful. But those whose balance is light, will be those who have lost their souls; in hell will they abide,” (23:102-103).
  2. “And We set a just balance for the Day of Resurrection so that no soul is wronged in aught. Though it be of the weight of a grain of mustard seed, We bring it. And We suffice for reckoners,” (21:47).
  3. “They are those who deny the Signs of their Lord and the fact of their having to meet Him (in the Hereafter): vain will be their works, nor shall We, on the Day of Judgment, give them any weight,” online Qur’an, 18:105

Is the Islamic system of salvation really enough to save Muslims? They will say that it is. But, as a Christian, I cannot see how anyone in Islam can have security and honest expectation of obtaining Paradise. How can anyone who must be completely sincere in repentance and be required to perform more good works than bad, ever hope to make it to heaven?

[Simple by following what God has said to do……, how is that hard to understand? Doing what God says to do and not doing what He has prohibited, is enough.]

The problem with being saved by God’s grace and human works is that human works are never sufficient to please God. God is infinite and holy. How can we finite sinners ever hope to please God by our deeds?

[By doing what He says, gains us success, happiness, guidance, not doing these things would mean blind faith and dogma, something like Christianity.]

Muslims need the gospel

Instead of relying in any way on our own works, the gospel of Jesus teaches us we do not have to do that. The gospel of Jesus is that He died for our sins and rose again from the dead (1 Cor. 15:1-4).

[You are not responsible for your sins, hypocrisy!]

He fulfilled all the Law so we don’t have to (Rom. 8:3-4).

[Wrong, if you have no laws, then do not practice Christianity; laws are guidelines are they not? Go rape someone then, you have no laws. What do you live your life by then? Not guidelines, which are actions, which are works, which makes you a hypocrite?]

He took our place and received the punishment due our sins (2 Cor. 5:21).

[No responsibility for your actions warrants pride and no salvation.]

Because we are sinners and because we cannot please an infinitely Holy God on our own, because we can never fulfill the Law of God perfectly, and because God’s eyes are too pure to look upon evil (Hab. 1:13), salvation must be by total grace (Eph. 2:8).

[God says He is pleased if we follow His word, His guidelines, His faith. If your God does not forgive, thinks He cannot forgive, then He is a Non-Merciful God and we should get no grace! You just proved yourself, wrong!]

Salvation must be the work of God, not of man (Gal. 2:21).

[So God created His creations so that He can do His work for them? Powerful All Mighty, All Merciful God out the window!]

1 John 5:13 says, “These things were written so you may know you have eternal life…

[Exactly, guidelines written to be practiced through faith which equals good works!]

Can the Muslim say he knows he has eternal life?

[God promises me it, if I follow His word and seek repentance for when I do not!]

He cannot.

[You are no God, so you cannot break His promise to mankind.]

I know I do as a Christian precisely because it is not of my works.

[So then Christians are Gods? Since no good comes from us according to you and Christ is in you and Christ was in Human form, are you just another God? I hate arrogance!]

So, why would a Muslim want me to give up my assurance and free gift of salvation found in Jesus for the Islamic system of works that, at best, only provides the possibility of salvation if I have been sincere enough and if I have done enough good works

[No ifs ands or buts. Do what God said and gain success here and in the hereafter. Not? And gain nothing. That’s it!]

 

CARM.ORG Needs to Lie! June 7, 2009

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Note: This is a Series of Refutations for Articles Found at www.carm.org

The Original Article Can Be Found Here:

http://www.carm.org/religious-movements/islam/methods-muslims-use-attack-christianity

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Text in non-bold and black are from original article.

Methods Muslims use to attack[attack here meaning explain] Christianity

When dealing with Muslims it is wise to understand some of the approaches used by them to discredit Christianity.  Much could be written on each of the following subjects with numerous examples.  But, instead, I will simply expound on the areas common among Muslim approaches and point out what to watch for.

No. 1      Attack the validity of the Bible

This is expected.  If the Muslim can undermine the strength and integrity of God’s word, then it would be much easier for him to win arguments, confound the Christian, and make converts of those who don’t know the truth and power of the Bible.  This is what the devil did in the Garden of Eden.  Satan said, “You truly will not die,” (Gen. 3:4).  I am not calling Muslims satanic.  I am simply pointing out that that is how deception begins, by bringing doubt upon God’s word, and that this is exactly what Muslims do.  They try and get people to doubt the Bible and then tell you how great Islam is.  Various methods are used here to accomplish this:

[Is deception using the Bible’s own word? Jeremiah 8:8, prove Islam’s Stance that Christianity is False]

  1. Stating that the Bible has numerous contradictions
    1. Of course, I cannot go through all the alleged Bible contradictions here.  But my observation has been that the majority of “biblical contradictions” raised by Muslims are nothing more than examples of their lack of understanding of biblical theology and context.  Always read the context of verses.  Don’t let a Muslim simply state that there are contradictions and leave it at that.  Ask him to give you one.  If you cannot answer it, do research and get back to him.  Sure, there are some tough areas of scripture, but there are no contradictions in God’s word.

[I beg to differ, visit my website www.biblerrors.com]

  1. Criticizing the lack of original manuscripts
    1. The point here is that because we do not have the original manuscripts of the Bible, we cannot really know what the originals said and, therefore, the Bible could have been corrupted.  They then compare the Bible to the Koran and state that the Koran is the guaranteed, preserved, direct word of Allah given by the angel Gabriel to Muhammad.  Of course, what they fail to mention is:
      1. The Bible documents are well attested as being reliable and accurate. In fact, we have around 24,000 ancient manuscripts of the New Testament. So much so, that no major area of Christian doctrine is affected by possible variations among manuscripts (click here for more details).

[Actually in 1999 The Catholic Church Set the Record Straight. Verses were removed for being false and for never actually being in the Bible. Ever heard of the RSV Bible? Where all Christian denominations admitted verses to be removed because of being false? I’m sure Protestants were part of those who agreed in the removal! Of those 24,000 Ancient Manuscripts, were they aged at the time of Isa(as) or Constantine?]

      1. Regarding the Koran, Muhammad couldn’t read or write, so he recited the Koran to people who then wrote it down.  There is no evidence at all that the Koran was written down in its entirety in Muhammad’s lifetime and compiled as a unit.  So how could he have verified its truth?

[So now you got to lie to make a point? Muhammad(saw) said: From Ibn Omar: ... 'The messenger of Allah (pbuh) said: ‘Do not take the Qur'an on a journey with you, for I am afraid lest it should fall into the hands of the enemy’’. (Sahih Muslim & Sahih Bukhari), So now, who’s lying? You or the man who actually brought it?]

      1. Shortly after Muhammad’s death, the Muslim Uthman ordered all sets of the Koran manuscripts to be destroyed except the codex of Zaid.  Why?  Is it because Zaid’s copy was better?  If so, how do we know?  Did differences in the copies arise so quickly that discrepancies were evident and Uthman recognized the need for a standardized copy lest Islam suffer division?  It raises doubt on the Koran’s supposed incorruptibility.

[Common anti-Islam claim. As much as I thought you wouldn’t stoop to lying, you proved me wrong above, so I suppose I’ll have to doubt your word from here on onwards.

The Quran is written in the language of Quraysh Arabic. When each new verse/ chapter was revealed and put into production, it was sent all throughout Arabia. At Uthman(ra) time, these scrolls were being translated into Arabic not from the tongue of the Quraysh and was being distributed. Hence he stuck to the original tongue which it was revealed in, and destroyed those that were not. Hence preventing any “non-Quraysh” Arabic to say it was Quran. As we know no translation is ever 100% accurate, so therefore the original was preserved.]

      1. Muslims claim that Allah said the Koran would be preserved.  But, the mere claim is not enough.  It is using the Koran to substantiate the Koran which is circular reasoning.

[I’ll use the University of Munich’s findings then. It was bombed during WW2, however before that it concluded a 50 year study on ancient Qur’an scrolls, tablets and entire books and found that all 40,000 were accurate with each other. Nothing had changed. Say what now?]

  1. Claiming that the Bible is false because it contradicts the Koran (Qur’an).
    1. This is simply begging the question.  That means that one assumes the validity of the thing that he is trying to prove.  The Muslim assumes the validity of the Qur’an and because it contradicts the Bible, the Bible is wrong.  Well, the Christian can just as easily state that the Koran is wrong because it contradicts the Bible.  But the Muslims would not accept that.  Therefore, why should we accept their argument?

[You should accept it, because the Bible says it is false. Jeremiah 8:8. Question: Did Isa(as) mention the coming of a scripture or book?]

No. 2      Attempt to set Paul against Jesus

Muslims often make the claim that Paul never met Jesus and was not a disciple or apostle of Jesus.  Of course, this is not true.  Paul encountered Jesus on the road to Damascus in Acts 9, after Jesus’ resurrection.  Jesus spoke to him and commissioned him.  So, Paul met Jesus.  Also, Peter, who was a disciple of Jesus, authenticated Paul’s writings by calling them scripture in 2 Pet. 3:15-16.  If they are inspired, then they cannot contradict Jesus’ words.

In addition, many Muslims claim that Jesus never claimed to be God and that Paul is the one who wrote that Jesus was God.  First of all, if they admit that Paul wrote that Jesus was God, then remind them of 2 Pet. 3:15-16 where Peter calls Paul’s writings Scripture.  Nevertheless, they sometimes assert that Paul hijacked Christianity and took it over and made Jesus into something He was not.  This claim is false.

Perhaps the primary area where Muslims think Paul and Jesus contradict is in the area of who Jesus is.  Paul states that Jesus is God in flesh:  Col. 2:9 says, “For in Him the fullness of deity dwells in bodily form.” Muslims assert that no where in the Gospels did Jesus claim to be God.  Therefore, they claim, Paul’s words are not true and the Bible is not trustworthy.

This attack by Muslims is an attack based out of opinion.  Jesus did claim to be God.   In John 8:56-59, it says, “Your father Abraham rejoiced to see My day, and he saw it and was glad.” 57The Jews therefore said to Him, “You are not yet fifty years old, and have You seen Abraham?”  58Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was born, I am.” 59Therefore they picked up stones to throw at Him; but Jesus hid Himself, and went out of the temple.”3 Why did the Pharisees want to kill Jesus?  They explain their reason in John 10:33 when they say, “For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God,” (KJV).  Whether or not the Muslim will accept this, let alone agree that this is correct, matters little because his presupposition will not allow him to accept, no matter what.  Nevertheless, the text clearly states that the Pharisees understood that Jesus was claiming to be God.  Also, consider John 5:18 where the Apostle John says, “Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God,” (KJV). In this verse Jesus healed on the Sabbath and the Pharisees thought He was breaking the Sabbath law.  John the Apostle also states that when Jesus claimed that God was His Father, that it was “making himself equal with God.” The Muslim will always find a way to argue out of these texts.  But, two facts remain.  First, Jesus claimed to be God.  Second, the Pharisees denied that Jesus was God and the Muslims agree with them.

There are other areas that the Muslims will say are where Jesus and Paul do not agree, but when they bring it up, always ask for an example.  Each time I’ve done this, I’ve discovered that the Muslim did not have a sufficient understanding of what the text is saying.  Remember, always  read the context.

[Did God speak to Paul on the road to Damascus or did he see a God? Paul seems to have mixed up how God inspired him. Please clarify. Either they heard God or not or Paul is lying. Concerning Paul, he circumcised a man, a grown man. Why did he do MESISAH to the man? Would you do Mesisah to me? Why are you so deviant to accept Mesisah?

Nowhere in Bible did Isa(as) claim to be God. That is of your opinion. Let’s examine your proof as stated above:

1) The Jews believe God would send a Messiah to them. The Pharisees in order to keep their authority killed many of those who claimed to be Prophets, Isa(as) was claiming to be this Messiah, this Prophet!

2) The language of the Jews is what? Hebrew. The language of one who claims to be of God’s doing would address them in their Holy Language. Son of God in Hebrew, with the context used literally meant Servant of God. However Bible creators took the literal meaning. Like you ended this point with above: CHRISTIANS did not have a sufficient understanding of what the text is saying.  Remember, always read the CONTEXT.

3) Using the Hebrew Holy Language of the Jews. Isa(as) when saying I am of the Son and God is the Father. Actually means : I am the Servant and God is the Father(of what? What was Isa(as) doing? Delivering a message, God in this CONTEXT is the FATHER of the revelation, the one who sent it, created it, gave it to Isa(as)]

No. 3      Misrepresentation of Christian doctrine

Sadly, this is a very common error of the Muslims.  The single greatest instance of this is in the doctrine of the Trinity.  Muslims so often attack a false understanding of the Trinity by stating that it is three gods.  That is not the correct Christian definition of the Trinity doctrine.  Christianity does not teach there are three gods.  It never has and it never will.  The doctrine of the Trinity is that there is only one God who exists in three persons:  Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.  Trinitarianism is monotheistic.  If a Muslim continues to proclaim that the Trinity is three gods, then I simply stop discussing the issue with him because he is not willing to accept what the definition is and it isn’t possible to have a meaningful dialogue.

[That’s called hearing an opinion, like you voice yours on your website, to deny what a Muslim’s opinion is, just shows your hypocrisy.]

Another Christian doctrine they fail to understand is the Hypostatic Union.  This is the teaching that Jesus is one person with two natures.  He is both God and man as is declared in Col. 2:9, “For in Him [Jesus] dwells the fullness of the Godhead bodily.” Because Jesus was also a man, we have verses such as John 14:28 where Jesus says “the Father is greater than I.” Muslims will say that if Jesus is God, how could He be greater than Himself?  Of course, they fail to understand the Trinity (three persons) and they fail to understand that Jesus, as a man (Phil. 2:5-8), cooperated with the limitations of being a man and was in a lower position than the Father (Heb. 2:9) for a while.

[Using your words: “The Father is greater than I”. = “The God is greater than God.” This speaks for itself. Muslims are reading it in the context which you ignore and in your arrogance dismiss to discuss as you stated above.

“they fail to understand that God as a man lost attributes so that He could understand man, because even though He was all knowing, He wasn’t all knowing enough to understand His own creation and decided to lower His Godly stature from being the All Mighty Creator to become one of the created in the process losing His attributes!”]

Sometimes Muslims refuse to accept Christian explanations for things because it doesn’t fit their agenda nor their preconceived ideas of what they think Christianity is.  Oddly enough, Christians often contribute to this problem by offering inadequate and sometimes erring explanations of Christian doctrine.  Thus, many Muslims are led into error regarding what Christianity really teaches.  Christians need to know their doctrine, and Muslims need to understand the proper explanations for those doctrines.

[I do and clearly you don’t want to]

No. 4      Misinterpreting various Scripture passages

A very good example of misrepresentation of biblical passages can be found in a dialogue I had with a Muslim regarding John 1:1, 14.  These verses say, “In the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the word was God.” Verse 14 says “and the Word became flesh and dwelt among us…” The Muslim I was speaking to reasoned thus:

If the word is God then we can insert the word “god” into the verse each time it says “word.”  Therefore, we would have it say ‘In the beginning was the God and the God was with God and God was God.’  As you can see, this makes no sense.  Therefore, when you go to verse 14 where it says the word became flesh, it cannot mean that God became flesh, because John 1:1 makes no sense.”

As you can see, this kind of logic is very bad.  First of all, John 1:1 does not say what he said it does.  It does not speak in contradictory terms the way he tried to make it sound.  Instead, it uses both the word “word” and the word “god” in the sentence.  I told him that he needed to go with what the text does say and not with what it does not say.  In other words, he reconstructed it in such a way as to purposely not make sense and then he attacked that.

Another verse, or verses, that they misinterpret is when Jesus says that He is the Son of God.  To the Muslim, this means that God literally had a wife and produced a literal son.  Of course, this is not what is meant by the biblical account.  Sonship is in relation to the Fatherhood of God in a spiritual and metaphoric sense.  After all, Jesus says that God is spirit (John 4:24).  Of course, God would not have a body of flesh and bones with which to procreate children.  What the Muslims are guilty of doing is imposing Islamic understandings upon biblical texts and then complaining about the biblical texts in light of how they interpret them.  This is not how one should go about “refuting the opposition.”  Rather, the Muslim should seek to understand the biblical/cultural context and deal with the issue from that perspective not a fabricated one as this example shows.

[So the word never became God? John if he existed lied in John 1:14 then? He said the word became God. Hence to insert the word God into John1:1 is using it in the context for which it was written!]

No. 5      Failing to differentiate between Protestant and Catholic doctrines

Sadly, Christianity is not in complete unity in all things –which is why we have denominations.  I am dismayed at the fragmentation within Christianity and think it is a poor witness to the world.  But, the fact is that differences of opinions among Christians do occur.  In fact, we are allowed to have differences of opinion according to God’s word found in Rom. 14: 1-13.  True Christians are all united in the essentials of the faith and are often divided on the non-essentials.  This does not mean we are not all Christians, but that we have differences of opinions on some things.

However, in the 1500s, there was a major split in the Catholic church.  It was called the Reformation.  As a Protestant, I believe the Reformation was necessary because the Catholic church had adopted some dangerous and erroneous doctrines that extend far beyond mere differences of opinion; namely, prayer to Mary, purgatory, indulgences, etc.

Muslims often fail to differentiate between Catholicism and Protestantism in their arguments.  I’ve heard and read where Muslims attack, for example, the Catholic teaching of the Eucharist where the bread and wine of the Lord’s Supper are claimed by the Catholics to actually become the body and blood of Christ during the communion service.  Of course, we Protestants strongly disagree with this.  But this disagreement is rarely, if ever, brought up when attacking Christian doctrine.  So, when Muslims say “Christians believe …”, be careful that they do not make too broad a generalization as they continue their attack.

[So when you call say “Muslims believe…..” do you not generalize yourself, which would then make you a hypocrite?]

No. 6      Claim their thinking is correct and Christian thinking is incorrect

Many Muslims have told me that what I am saying about God, Salvation, the Bible, etc., isn’t logical.  Now, perhaps some things I say are not logical.  But, I’ve not heard any convincing arguments yet demonstrating what is and is not logical regarding Christian doctrine.  Usually, the Muslim will simply say that Jesus having two natures is not logical or that the Trinity being three persons doesn’t make sense.   But saying so doesn’t make it so.  There is nothing illogical about a part of God being able to become a person and add human nature to Himself.  It may not be the easiest thing in the world to understand, but it is not illogical.  Neither does saying that the Trinity is three persons is illogical make it so.  Surely anyone would agree that when we encounter God and His self revelation there will be things that are difficult to understand.  The Trinity certainly falls under that category.  But, the Trinity doctrine is not against logic.  It would be illogical to say that one God is three gods, or that one person is three persons.  But that is not what Christianity teaches.

I’ve found that when dialoguing with Muslims and when reading their material against Christianity, that their claim to know real logic is really an extension of their Muslim thought and not a mastery of logic at all.

[Muslim Logic 1+1+1=3

Christian Logic 1+1+1=1

Question: Is being illogical make you logical or do you just sound stupid? Exactly my point!

I am a Muslim who attends a Christian School, very prominent, I’ve been doing badly at Mathematics, I always add 1+1+1=1. My teacher thinks I’m stupid, I just tell him I’m using Christian Logic. I still don’t pass…..]

No. 7      Switching topics when challenged

Sometimes when discussing subjects that Muslims find difficult to answer, they will quickly change the subject. Very often this change involves attacking the Bible. Other times they will testify that they know Islam is true or they will simply say that you do not know what you are talking about. But when they change the subject you must be patient. Lovingly bring them back to the subject at hand. I have had to do this many times when discussing Islam with Muslims.

This is a small but very important point. Too many Christians fall into the trap of allowing themselves to be diverted from the subject at hand. Do not let a Muslim simply ignore a question and start a new subject when it gets tough. Likewise, Christians should not simply change the subject when it gets difficult for them either. Instead, if you do not know the answer to a question, simply admit it. Go do some research and then get back with them.

Always remember to be gracious. You will not win the Muslim to the Lord with cruelty and rudeness. And remember that we are in the spiritual battle. Love and truth in the name of Jesus is more powerful than any perfect answer.

When dialoguing with Muslims, please remember to be respectful and patient.  But, check everything they say and listen to them.  They do not have the market cornered on truth, even though they think they do.

[I’m Muslim, add me on MSN, you can email me at techliveadmin@gmail.com and request my personal MSN ID there. Let’s put your claim to task! Come on! Let’s see who will actually change topics!]

 

CARM.ORG GREETS MUSLIMS June 7, 2009

Note: This is a Series of Refutations for Articles Found at www.carm.org

The Original Article Can Be Found Here:

http://www.carm.org/religious-movements/islam/muslims-please-read-first

Note: [Text in These Brackets, Bold and Red are Mines]

Text in non-bold and black are from original article.

Muslims, please read this first

Assalamu alaikum

[Please Refrain From Using Words You Do Not Understand, This is Explained Below.]

Christians and Muslims disagree on the nature of God, salvation, prophets, the true Scriptures, etc.

[Correct, Below We Shall See Why!]

For the great majority of us on both sides, we will not change our views.

[Not really, Islam is Americas fastest growing religion, reason being Muslims depend on logic and reasoning, not DOGMA]

You believe in Allah and Muhammad as his prophet.

[Yes, Allah(swt) is our Creator and Muhammad(saw) is His Final Messenger]

I am a Christian, saved by the grace of my Lord and Savior, Jesus.

[You are a what? Who are you to judge if you are saved or not?]

In obedience to Christ, and according to the Bible, I seek to expose error and teach the truth…and, respectfully, I do not think Islam is the truth.

[In obedience to who? Did Isa(as) ever call himself Christ? According to which book? Did Isa(as) speak about a Bible? How can you base your beliefs and hate mines without having an authentic book?]

I say this outright so that no Muslim will accuse me of being deceptive or having a hidden agenda.

[Then why use As Salaamu Alaykum? It means Peace not argument. Hypocritical!]

My goal is to convert Muslims to Christ so they may find salvation in Him and to inform seekers about Islam as compared to the Bible, and in so doing to turn them to Christ

[Your goal is to convert those who submit to the will of God to God(Christ=God to you, no?]?

[So you want to convert those who submit to the will of God into Gods to find salvation in God and to inform us about your lies and in so doing convert God to God?]

However, please realize that I have no hatred for Islam, Muhammad, Muslims, or the Koran.

[Well I as a Muslim would like to differ, you do.]

A Muslim never wronged me and I had no trauma as a child involving anything Muslim.

[Muslims follow Muhammad(saw) example, so I suppose you like him to? Good to know! Want to join the brotherhood?]

I mean no insult to you at all when I say that according to the Bible, I respectfully believe Islam is false.

[I’ll be looking through your articles to see how Islam is false, however Bible says it is false. Jeremiah 8:8!]

I know you disagree and perhaps you will take it as an insult or some form of persecution.

[No, why would your ignorance and spreading of hate insult me?]

I hope you do not.  I am simply being faithful to my Lord Jesus in defending His truth as revealed in the Bible.

[You are being faithful to God and defending God’s truth in the Bible? You do know his words are less than 10% of the actual text. So unless the Bible exists as 10% of itself or you only follow a 10% Bible, let me know how a false, unauthentic book is truth.]

I realize that there are many good Muslims in the world who are peaceful, honest, compassionate, and who desire to serve God in truth. I do not fault any Muslim for this.

[But you believe it is false? Hypocrisy mate.]

Likewise, I hope you will not find fault with my honest intention to do the same according to the convictions of my heart since I seek to serve God.

[I don’t that’s why I’ve got my website. www.biblerrors.com]

Nevertheless, if I mistakenly misrepresent Islam on this site, I take full responsibility for it.

[Good, so when are you deleting your site then?]

It is not my desire to produce a false image of Islam and then attempt to destroy the false image.

[Dude, hypocrisy doesn’t float with Muslims, may work for everyone else.]

I only ask that you let me know in what area I have erred (with documentation) and I shall do my best to correct it, within reason. I say “within reason” because a difference of opinion on a matter does not warrant a correction.

[Then your entire site is not within reason, and our faiths do have difference of opinion.]

But, if I have some error in facts, definition, dates, or doctrines of Islam, I would value being corrected.

[So when do we correct your entire Islam section? I’m willing.]

I do not seek to attack and call Muslims names or use emotional and poorly reasoned arguments as “proofs” for my position — as too many Christians have already attempted in the past.

[Which your site is doing now? Again hypocrisy does not float!]

Rather, I seek to know Islam truthfully, convey a factual and honest representation of it to readers, and, of course, to tackle what I consider are its errors.

[Exactly, we don’t need your opinion, we have our scholars for that!]

Therefore, these pages will be somewhat fluid in that they will be refined over time.

[Fluid? Is that what you call rubbish?]

My only desire is that you find the forgiveness of Jesus and the love of God that abounds in my heart and the hearts of His redeemed people.

By the grace of Christ Jesus, my Savior.

[Who? Do you actually know what God’s name is? When you find it, then tell me by who’s grace you are saved!]

Muslims, please read this first

man praying islamAssalamu alaikum

[Please Refrain From Using Words You Do Not Understand, This is Explained Below.]

Christians and Muslims disagree on the nature of God, salvation, prophets, the true Scriptures, etc.

[Correct, Below We Shall See Why!]

For the great majority of us on both sides, we will not change our views.

[Not really, Islam is Americas fastest growing religion, reason being Muslims depend on logic and reasoning, not DOGMA]

You believe in Allah and Muhammad as his prophet.

[Yes, Allah(swt) is our Creator and Muhammad(saw) is His Final Messenger]

I am a Christian, saved by the grace of my Lord and Savior, Jesus.

[You are a what? Who are you to judge if you are saved or not?]

In obedience to Christ, and according to the Bible, I seek to expose error and teach the truth…and, respectfully, I do not think Islam is the truth.

[In obedience to who? Did Isa(as) ever call himself Christ? According to which book? Did Isa(as) speak about a Bible? How can you base your beliefs and hate mines without having an authentic book?]

I say this outright so that no Muslim will accuse me of being deceptive or having a hidden agenda.

[Then why use As Salaamu Alaykum? It means Peace not argument. Hypocritical!]

My goal is to convert Muslims to Christ so they may find salvation in Him and to inform seekers about Islam as compared to the Bible, and in so doing to turn them to Christ

[Your goal is to convert those who submit to the will of God to God(Christ=God to you, no?]?

[So you want to convert those who submit to the will of God into Gods to find salvation in God and to inform us about your lies and in so doing convert God to God?]

However, please realize that I have no hatred for Islam, Muhammad, Muslims, or the Koran.

[Well I as a Muslim would like to differ, you do.]

A Muslim never wronged me and I had no trauma as a child involving anything Muslim.

[Muslims follow Muhammad(saw) example, so I suppose you like him to? Good to know! Want to join the brotherhood?]

I mean no insult to you at all when I say that according to the Bible, I respectfully believe Islam is false.

[I’ll be looking through your articles to see how Islam is false, however Bible says it is false. Jeremiah 8:8!]

I know you disagree and perhaps you will take it as an insult or some form of persecution.

[No, why would your ignorance and spreading of hate insult me?]

I hope you do not.  I am simply being faithful to my Lord Jesus in defending His truth as revealed in the Bible.

[You are being faithful to God and defending God’s truth in the Bible? You do know his words are less than 10% of the actual text. So unless the Bible exists as 10% of itself or you only follow a 10% Bible, let me know how a false, unauthentic book is truth.]

I realize that there are many good Muslims in the world who are peaceful, honest, compassionate, and who desire to serve God in truth. I do not fault any Muslim for this.

[But you believe it is false? Hypocrisy mate.]

Likewise, I hope you will not find fault with my honest intention to do the same according to the convictions of my heart since I seek to serve God.

[I don’t that’s why I’ve got my website. www.biblerrors.com]

Nevertheless, if I mistakenly misrepresent Islam on this site, I take full responsibility for it.

[Good, so when are you deleting your site then?]

It is not my desire to produce a false image of Islam and then attempt to destroy the false image.

[Dude, hypocrisy doesn’t float with Muslims, may work for everyone else.]

I only ask that you let me know in what area I have erred (with documentation) and I shall do my best to correct it, within reason. I say “within reason” because a difference of opinion on a matter does not warrant a correction.

[Then your entire site is not within reason, and our faiths do have difference of opinion.]

But, if I have some error in facts, definition, dates, or doctrines of Islam, I would value being corrected.

[So when do we correct your entire Islam section? I’m willing.]

I do not seek to attack and call Muslims names or use emotional and poorly reasoned arguments as “proofs” for my position — as too many Christians have already attempted in the past.

[Which your site is doing now? Again hypocrisy does not float!]

Rather, I seek to know Islam truthfully, convey a factual and honest representation of it to readers, and, of course, to tackle what I consider are its errors.

[Exactly, we don’t need your opinion, we have our scholars for that!]

Therefore, these pages will be somewhat fluid in that they will be refined over time.

[Fluid? Is that what you call rubbish?]

My only desire is that you find the forgiveness of Jesus and the love of God that abounds in my heart and the hearts of His redeemed people.

By the grace of Christ Jesus, my Savior.

[Who? Do you actually know what God’s name is? When you find it, then tell me by who’s grace you are saved!]